Дымлеопард на Борнео раньше, чем леопард на Яве, так как успел сильно обособиться от островного.

Деление на подвиды леопардов основано скорее всего не столько на географии и биотопов, сколько на обмене генами.
К примеру во всей Индии обитает только индийский леопард. В то время как условия в Северной Индии больше схожи с таковыми в Иране, где обитает персидский леопард. Берберийского леопарда сейчас не выделяют в отдельный подвид, и относят к африканскому. И они весьма схожи. В то время как биотопы Северной Африке схожи с Израилем, Ливаном и Сирией, где обитает/обитал аравийский леопард. К тому же раньше до северной границы Израиля доходил ареал персидского леопарда, который обитает также в Турции, а это ОЧЕНЬ разные регионы в плане природных условий.

Тигр леопарда никак не мог вытеснить.

Отредактировано Кот (27 September 2011 22:52:11)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ERNZLal … re=related леопард убил льва.

Детеныш леопарда отбуцал шакала - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOmME3J4 … re=related

Кот :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ERNZLal0ro&feature=related леопард убил льва.

Где там вообще видно, что леопард кого-то убил? Крэзи, посмотри на другие видео этого пользователя. Обычный тигрофан. Возможно китаец. )

Мурлыканье леопарда http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojz6qkSY … re=related

The following is an incident witnessed by the South African naturist Marais and quoted in the book about leopards written by Turnbull-Kemp (and quoted in other books as well). It involves an ambush (complete surprise) attack of two baboons against an unsuspecting leopard:

https://www.naturalduties.com/LeopardBaboons.cfm

It was still dusk. The troop [of baboons] had only just returned from the feeding grounds and had barely time to reach its scattered places in the high piled rocks behind the fig tree. Now it shrilled its terror and Marais could see the leopard. It appeared from the bush and took its insolent time. So vulnerable were the baboons that the leopard seemed to recognize no need for hurry. He crouched just below a little jutting cliff observing his prey and the problems of the terrain and Marais saw two male baboons edging along the cliff above him.

The two males moved cautiously; the leopard, if he saw them, ignored them. His attention was fixed on the swarming, screeching, defenseless horde scrambling among the rocks. The two males dropped. They dropped on him from the height of twelve feet. One bit at the leopard's spine. The other struck at his throat while clinging to his neck from below. In an instant the leopard disemboweled with his hind claws the baboon hanging to this neck and caught in his jaws the baboon on his back. But it was too late. The dying disemboweled baboon had hung on just long enough and had reached the leopard's jugular vein with his canines.

Marais watched while movement stilled beneath the little jutting cliff. Night fell. Death, hidden from all but the impartial stars, enveloped prey and predator alike and in the hollow places in the rocky, looming krans, a society of animals settled down to sleep.

[Robert Ardry, African Genesis (N.Y., Atheneum Publishers, 1961) p. 81.]

Если я правильно понял, второго бабуина он так и не успел убить?

Hands vs. Claws
A myth must be ended now.
Claws completely obsolete mere hands in terms of fighting.

As far as raw damage, as both can hit with comparable force, the claws would simply add damage-not to mention claws can be potentially used to tear or rip at skin to attempt to cause large open wounds, meaning they are useful for much more then merely paw swipes when attempting to cause injuries.

The primary advantage that the Ape supporters attempt to assert in favor of hands over claws is that they are supposedly better for manipulating opponents-an erroneous assumption.

Hands would be superior in terms of manipulating thin objects where the opposable thumb can provide a hold, assuming the friction produced by the grip is powerful enough to prevent slipping.

However, animals do not possess handles on their torsos-the only regions where hands could effectively grab would be the lower limbs of the opposing animals.

However, animals are not trained and skilled at grappling like some humans are, therefore the Apes couldn't use this to their advantage by attempting to manipulate the other animal's limbs into a point of superior leverage, not only simply on account of the fact that they have far inferior leverage by default due to their much longer forelimbs, but due to the fact that they don't know the complicated grappling techniques some humans are aware of.

When wrestling, for the most part it will be overall manipulation of the animal that would be used-this means of the other animal's body/torso. However, this is where claws are simply superior in providing a grip in both terms of pulling where the hooks provide excellent grips, and, the more common, pushing, where the claws would provide a deterrent for resisting on the account that this would drive them in more deeply.

The damage claws can deal to another animal should not need mentioning, however, considering some posts I have seen, I believe it may be safer to do so.

As it was once mentioned that a felne's claws are specialized for gripping, and thus wouldn't be nearly as good at dealing slashing wounds, I would like to bring up the fact that this is only the case for animals with thick, tough, hides-a word that does not describe animals with sweat glands, such as the Gorilla.

On two other occasions adult male baboons chased a large spotted cat, either a leopard or a cheetah. The predatory habits of these two cats are strikingly different, and specific field identifications are still needed to distinguish between baboon responses to these predators. These observations agree with the general lore that adult male baboons sometimes harass medium-sized predators. However, almost all anecdotal accounts of male baboons harassing leopards have been in the daytime. The relevance of daytime observations to the leopard's nocturnal hunting habits is unknown. Leopards appear to enter baboon roosting trees with relative impunity, and we have not yet seen any defence by adult males at night."

Отредактировано Кот (16 October 2011 10:08:18)

http://www.freewebs.com/anatolianleopard/photos.htm следы персидского леопарда.

Обратите внимание, что самый крупный череп у персидсого леопарда, а череп леопардов из Центральноц Африки (там, где других крупных хищников нет) самый большой на африканском континенте.

Отредактировано Кот (10 November 2011 20:26:47)

Large males of up to 91 kg (200 lb) have been documented in Kruger National Park in South Africa.

Other large subspecies, in which the males can also weigh up to 91 kg (200 lb), are the Sri Lankan leopard (P. p. kotiya) and the rare, little-known Anatolian leopard (P. p. tulliana).  The largest verified leopard weighed 96.5 kg (213 lb), with larger sizes reported but considered unreliable.

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Леопард прогнал шубача от своей добычи http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txDfvbTF … r_embedded

Отредактировано Кот (14 November 2011 03:44:08)

Леопард охотится на бабуина на дереве. Удивительно, что оба упали с высоты эдак в три этажа безо всяких последствий для себя.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2m4Q2W … re=related

Глеб :

Показывают этими днями по ТВ заповедник Кедровая падь, там уже 50 животных насчитали и пришел еще один новый взрослый  амурский  леопард  самец.  При этом они сообщили что самка леопарда принесла 8 детенышей от прежнего  самца.   Наверно  ляпсус какой-то, такого не может быть.
   В прошлый раз они к приезду  гостей тигрицу так усыпили, что она больше не проснулась.  А они ей уже и имя присвоили  подобающее.

Тоже такое инфо слышала, склонна верить...
Эти новости не могут не радовать! Прекрасно.
А по поводу тигрицы- несчастный случай, конечно, жаль...Но они явно не хотели того...

Отредактировано Йоля (08 December 2011 12:21:10)